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Second pass at: Reading a trial's population section before its results

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Coming back to the opening post, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing. The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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vial_tableTL2Member12 Jun 2026#1

Second pass at: Reading a trial's population section before its results Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did.

I have seen STEP 1 (N Engl J Med, 2021) cited in support of a claim I do not think it supports, twice this month, so I would like to work through what it actually shows.

My reading is that the trial is sound for its own question and is being stretched to answer a different one. I might be wrong about that, which is why this is a topic rather than a correction.

What I would like from this discussion: someone who disagrees with me to say why, with the section of the paper they are relying on.

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n.petrovTL2 Moderator28 Jun 2026#2

Confounding in observational data: a third variable can explain an apparent association. In a randomised trial, randomisation balances unknown confounders. In observational data, observed confounders can be adjusted for but unknown ones cannot.

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so.cardosoTL2 Moderator Solution9 Jul 2026#3
vial_table, post #1: Second pass at: Reading a trial's population section before its results Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. I have seen STEP 1 ( N Engl J Med , 2021) cited in support of a claim I do not think it supports, twice this month, so I would like to work through what it actually shows. My reading… Go to post

Coming back to the opening post, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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s.dziedzicTL2 Moderator18 Jul 2026#4

Picking up post #3: that is the part I would want checked first.

Open-label design: unblinded trials admit expectation effects. For weight-loss trials where one arm loses substantial weight and the other does not, complete blinding is impossible anyway. The unblinded nature is a limitation worth noting.

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a.silvaTL2 Moderator27 Jul 2026#5

Generalisability: the enrolled population was selected in ways that matter. Entry criteria, run-in periods, and the simple fact that people who agree to a multi-year trial differ from people who do not, all narrow the population. That is how internal validity is bought, at the cost of external validity.

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Promoted into the documentation commons. The content of this topic is maintained at SURPASS-2 — trial digest, with named maintainers and a review date. The promotion was discussed in doc review. Corrections are best raised against the document, which is the version that gets kept current.
Moved from Meta-analyses by dr_okonkwo. Category placement is not obvious from outside and getting it wrong is expected. This topic will get better answers here. The move is recorded in the public log citing R7.

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