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The SOUL trial and oral semaglutide cardiovascular outcomes

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y.mensahTL3Wiki editor7 Jan 2026#1

Posting this under the heading it deserves: The SOUL trial and oral semaglutide cardiovascular outcomes Everything below is what sits behind that.

Session topic: SCALE (N Engl J Med, 2015). Please read it before posting; the discussion is much better when everyone has.

The question I would like us to start with is what the trial set out to estimate, rather than what it found. Once that is on the table we can talk about whether the design could have answered it, and only then about the numbers.

Specific things I would like covered: the population and how far it generalises, how discontinuation was handled, whether the comparator was a fair one, and what the absolute rather than relative effect looks like.

I will summarise at the end and the summary will feed the relevant digest page.

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n.silvaTL2 Moderator4 May 2026#2

Dose numbers for oral formulations are not comparable to injectable ones. The 14 mg oral dose is not equivalent to any injectable dose in the traditional comparison sense. They are different formulations with different pharmacokinetics and cannot be put on the same scale.

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ms_hollowayTL4Mass spectrometrist28 Jul 2026#3
y.mensah, post #1: Posting this under the heading it deserves: The SOUL trial and oral semaglutide cardiovascular outcomes Everything below is what sits behind that. Session topic: SCALE ( N Engl J Med , 2015). Please read it before posting; the discussion is much better when everyone has. The question I would like us to start with is what the trial set… Go to post

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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