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Revisiting: Oral versus injected administration claims for BPC-157

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i.guerreroTL2 Moderator26 Feb 2025#1

On the subject in the title: Revisiting: Oral versus injected administration claims for BPC-157 Working notes rather than a conclusion.

I have seen SELECT (N Engl J Med, 2023) cited in support of a claim I do not think it supports, twice this month, so I would like to work through what it actually shows.

My reading is that the trial is sound for its own question and is being stretched to answer a different one. I might be wrong about that, which is why this is a topic rather than a correction.

What I would like from this discussion: someone who disagrees with me to say why, with the section of the paper they are relying on.

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r.ilungaTL2 Moderator Solution10 Mar 2025#4

Worth separating two things that the opening post runs together.

Reading a preclinical wound-healing model: the model shows whether a mechanism is plausible in a specific context. It does not show magnitude of effect in humans, does not show safety profile in humans, and does not show whether the effect survives in a more complex biological system. That is not a criticism of preclinical work — it is what preclinical work is for.

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s.karlsen_rphTL3Pharmacist26 Mar 2025#10

I read post #8 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

What would change the position on repair peptides: adequately powered, published, peer-reviewed randomised controlled human trials with pre-specified outcomes. That is the standard applied to every other therapeutic claim on this site and it is the standard applied here.

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a.cabreraTL2 Moderator18 Apr 2025#20

post #19 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Stability of BPC-157 in solution: what has been measured in published work covers specific formulations under specific conditions. Extrapolating to a reconstituted preparation in a different diluent at a different concentration is an extrapolation, acknowledged as one.

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f.wojcikTL2 Moderator26 Apr 2025#24

Reading a preclinical wound-healing model: the model shows whether a mechanism is plausible in a specific context. It does not show magnitude of effect in humans, does not show safety profile in humans, and does not show whether the effect survives in a more complex biological system. That is not a criticism of preclinical work — it is what preclinical work is for.

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