Sleep hygiene: basics (cool dark room, consistent sleep time, no screens before bed) matter more during energy deficit because stress and sleep need are higher.
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Wellbeing · Sleep · continued
Sleep tracking data and its considerable limitations posts 31–60
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.
Apnoea monitoring: if you have diagnosed or suspected sleep apnoea, periodic monitoring (annually) during weight loss is prudent because severity changes.
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Picking up post #30: that is the part I would want checked first.
When sleep problems need attention: if sleep does not improve as weight loss continues or if it worsens, discussing with a clinician is prudent. Sleep disorders are real and treatable.
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plateau_notes, post #6: Gastrointestinal effects overnight: nausea or reflux or constipation at night can disrupt sleep. Dosing timing (morning versus evening) might help if nighttime GI symptoms are the problem. Go to post
Coming back to post #32, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.
Sleep quality versus quantity: some people report changes to sleep duration; others report changes to sleep quality without duration change. Both can matter for recovery and daytime function.
post #34 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.
Gastrointestinal effects overnight: nausea or reflux or constipation at night can disrupt sleep. Dosing timing (morning versus evening) might help if nighttime GI symptoms are the problem.
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k.brandl_de, post #2: This follows the opening post rather than contradicting it. Sleep hygiene: basics (cool dark room, consistent sleep time, no screens before bed) matter more during energy deficit because stress and sleep need are higher. Go to post
I read post #36 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
Obstructive sleep apnoea: pre-existing OSA can worsen with weight before it improves (apnoea-hypopnoea index goes up as soft tissue inflames before weight is lost). This is self-limited but uncomfortable during active weight loss.
i.wojcik, post #27: On post #23 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Gastrointestinal effects overnight: nausea or reflux or constipation at night can disrupt sleep. Dosing timing (morning versus evening) might help if nighttime GI symptoms are the problem. Go to post
Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.
Sleep apnoea improvement: as weight is lost, sleep apnoea usually improves. The timeframe is weeks to months, not immediate. Improvement often is gradual rather than sudden.
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k.brandl_de, post #2: This follows the opening post rather than contradicting it. Sleep hygiene: basics (cool dark room, consistent sleep time, no screens before bed) matter more during energy deficit because stress and sleep need are higher. Go to post
Obstructive sleep apnoea: pre-existing OSA can worsen with weight before it improves (apnoea-hypopnoea index goes up as soft tissue inflames before weight is lost). This is self-limited but uncomfortable during active weight loss.
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Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.
The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.
Picking up post #41: that is the part I would want checked first.
Gastrointestinal effects overnight: nausea or reflux or constipation at night can disrupt sleep. Dosing timing (morning versus evening) might help if nighttime GI symptoms are the problem.
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Worth separating two things that post #41 runs together.
Sleep quality versus quantity: some people report changes to sleep duration; others report changes to sleep quality without duration change. Both can matter for recovery and daytime function.
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a.wikstrom, post #42: Obstructive sleep apnoea: pre-existing OSA can worsen with weight before it improves (apnoea-hypopnoea index goes up as soft tissue inflames before weight is lost). This is self-limited but uncomfortable during active weight loss. Go to post
Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.
Apnoea monitoring: if you have diagnosed or suspected sleep apnoea, periodic monitoring (annually) during weight loss is prudent because severity changes.
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Sleep hygiene: basics (cool dark room, consistent sleep time, no screens before bed) matter more during energy deficit because stress and sleep need are higher.
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a.teixeira, post #3: Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing. The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough. Go to post
On post #45 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Appetite suppression and nighttime eating: if nighttime eating was a pattern, appetite suppression changes that pattern. Sleep can worsen if nighttime waking is habitual and now there is no appetite-based reason to wake.
post #49 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
Energy and sleep needs: rapid weight loss increases real metabolic stress. Sleep needs might increase even though appetite for food has decreased. Prioritising sleep is prudent during active weight loss.
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Stimulants and sleep: if supplementing with caffeine or other stimulants for energy during weight loss, timing and dose matter for sleep. Evening stimulant use interferes with sleep.
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plateau_notes, post #6: Gastrointestinal effects overnight: nausea or reflux or constipation at night can disrupt sleep. Dosing timing (morning versus evening) might help if nighttime GI symptoms are the problem. Go to post
post #52 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.
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On post #50 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Appetite suppression and nighttime eating: if nighttime eating was a pattern, appetite suppression changes that pattern. Sleep can worsen if nighttime waking is habitual and now there is no appetite-based reason to wake.
I read post #54 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
Stimulants and sleep: if supplementing with caffeine or other stimulants for energy during weight loss, timing and dose matter for sleep. Evening stimulant use interferes with sleep.
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b.frisk, post #25: Energy and sleep needs: rapid weight loss increases real metabolic stress. Sleep needs might increase even though appetite for food has decreased. Prioritising sleep is prudent during active weight loss. Go to post
Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.
The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.
Picking up post #56: that is the part I would want checked first.
Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.
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