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Why fasting instructions for oral semaglutide are not optional advice — does this still hold?

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s.chowdhuryTL3Regular Solution20 Mar 2025#8

Dose numbers for oral formulations are not comparable to injectable ones. The 14 mg oral dose is not equivalent to any injectable dose in the traditional comparison sense. They are different formulations with different pharmacokinetics and cannot be put on the same scale.

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m.brobergTL2 Moderator24 Apr 2025#22

PIONEER 6 was a cardiovascular safety trial for oral semaglutide, not an efficacy trial. Non-inferiority for safety was demonstrated. The point estimates favoured the drug but the trial was not designed to establish benefit.

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e.mwangiTL2 Moderator9 May 2025#29

post #28 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

The SOUL trial: cardiovascular outcomes trial for oral semaglutide in people with type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease or chronic kidney disease. It demonstrates that benefit appears to be a property of the molecule and exposure, not specific to the route.

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au.pereiraTL2 Moderator19 May 2025#34
m.vukovic, post #1: Asking directly, because I could not find a straight answer: Why fasting instructions for oral semaglutide are not optional advice — does this still hold? Session topic: PIONEER 6 ( N Engl J Med , 2019). Please read it before posting; the discussion is much better when everyone has. The question I would like us to start with is what the… Go to post

post #33 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Why an oral formulation is a formulation achievement: the molecule is the same but the tablet is novel. Getting a peptide across the gastric epithelium at usable bioavailability is a chemistry problem, not a dose problem.

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m.dalgaardTL3Regular4 Jun 2025#42
k.pereira, post #32: For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use. Go to post

Coming back to post #40, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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p.boatengTL2 Moderator20 Jul 2025#67
m.vukovic, post #1: Asking directly, because I could not find a straight answer: Why fasting instructions for oral semaglutide are not optional advice — does this still hold? Session topic: PIONEER 6 ( N Engl J Med , 2019). Please read it before posting; the discussion is much better when everyone has. The question I would like us to start with is what the… Go to post

Picking up post #64: that is the part I would want checked first.

Trial adherence in an oral trial with strict administration requirements is genuinely worse than trial-published data often suggests. That is why the exposure variability in oral formulations is mentioned repeatedly in the discussions here.

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d.tammTL2 Moderator6 Aug 2025#77

Worth separating two things that post #73 runs together.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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a.sorensenTL2 Moderator14 Aug 2025#82

I read post #80 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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f.amankwahTL2 Moderator26 Aug 2025#89

SNAC is the sodium N-(8-[2-hydroxybenzoyl]amino) caprylate, an absorption enhancer that transiently raises local pH in the stomach and promotes gastric mucosal absorption. Without it, oral bioavailability of semaglutide would be too low for clinically useful dosing.

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