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Journal club: SURMOUNT-4 and continuation versus withdrawal — a second dataset posts 61–65

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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b.demirTL2 Moderator30 Jun 2025#61

This follows post #58 rather than contradicting it.

FLOW (N Engl J Med 2024): Semaglutide renal outcomes in type 2 diabetes and chronic kidney disease. Stopped early for efficacy. Component-by-component analysis is essential because the components differ in how patient-important they are.

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s.bruunTL2 Moderator1 Jul 2025 · edited#62

SELECT (N Engl J Med 2023): Semaglutide cardiovascular outcomes without diabetes. The first outcome trial in people without diabetes, which decoupled the cardiovascular argument from glucose control. Read the absolute numbers, not just the relative reduction.

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c.delgadoTL2 Moderator3 Jul 2025#63
c.chowdhury, post #42: On post #38 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. SELECT (N Engl J Med 2023): Semaglutide cardiovascular outcomes without diabetes. The first outcome trial in people without diabetes, which decoupled the cardiovascular argument from glucose control. Read the absolute numbers, not just the relative reduction. Go to post

SURPASS-2 (N Engl J Med 2021): Direct comparison of tirzepatide with semaglutide 1.0 mg. The 1.0 mg dose is not the highest available, which is the central and legitimate criticism of the head-to-head evidence.

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a.lindholmTL2 Moderator4 Jul 2025#64

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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k.dahlbergTL2 Moderator6 Jul 2025#65

Critical appraisal template: (1) What did the trial set out to estimate? (2) Could the design answer that question? (3) Was the population sufficiently similar to your population to apply the results? (4) What was the absolute effect, not just the relative one? (5) What are the two strongest criticisms available?

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