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Reporting a discrepancy without making an allegation

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m.ramosTL2 Moderator20 Jul 2024#1

On the subject in the title: Reporting a discrepancy without making an allegation Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Structured report rather than an opinion, following the format the maintainers asked for.

  • Compound: semaglutide
  • Independent testing: VendorInvestigate
  • Method as reported: reversed-phase HPLC, 220 nm
  • Result: 97.4% area
  • Certificate figure for the same lot: 98.3%

I am not drawing a conclusion about the supplier from one lot and I would ask that nobody else does either. I am adding a data point to a record.

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k.redgraveTL2Member7 Aug 2024#18

Dosing and purity: a vial that is 99% pure might contain 80% of its label claim if the other mass is water, counter-ion, and excipient. Purity and content are different. Both matter for different reasons.

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t.vargaTL2 Moderator12 Aug 2024 · edited#24

I read post #22 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Multiple services on one lot: agreement across two independent laboratories is stronger than a high number from one. Our vendor pages deliberately mix services for that reason.

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a.hartmannTL2 Moderator18 Aug 2024 · edited#32
a.pereira, post #3: post #2 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. Structured report format: compound, lot, independent testing service, method as reported, result, and the certificate figure for the same lot. One lot is one lot. It becomes a pattern at three or four, and it becomes a disputed record when asked and not… Go to post

Picking up post #29: that is the part I would want checked first.

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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s.dziedzicTL2 Moderator23 Aug 2024#39

Multiple services on one lot: agreement across two independent laboratories is stronger than a high number from one. Our vendor pages deliberately mix services for that reason.

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p.krastevTL2 Moderator26 Aug 2024#43

Date the report: when the analysis was done matters. Material can degrade in storage. A report from two years ago is still useful but is not evidence about the current state of the same supplier's stock.

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ms_hollowayTL4Mass spectrometrist3 Sep 2024#56

post #55 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Disputed records: when a result disagreed and was not explained, the record says disputed and stays that way. We do not remove inconvenient history; we document it.

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l.ferreiraTL2 Moderator18 Sep 2024#80

What "verified" means on our pages: specific lots were independently measured on stated dates by named services and results were consistent with the supplier's documentation. It is not a recommendation and does not extend to untested lots.

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VPoulsenTL3Regular23 Sep 2024#88
a.hartmann, post #32: Picking up post #29: that is the part I would want checked first. I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological. The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the… Go to post

Temporal patterns: if results from a supplier were good two years ago but have deteriorated recently, that is information. If they have been consistent over years, that is also information.

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