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Training through a dose escalation week

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KAnderssonTL3Regular15 Nov 2024#1

Training through a dose escalation week — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable.

What changes if the standard account of training through a dose escalation is wrong? I ask because I have been treating it as settled and I noticed this week that I could not say why.

Working through the consequences rather than the evidence, since others here are better placed on the evidence.

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j.falkTL217 Nov 2024 · edited#2

This follows the opening post rather than contradicting it.

Recovery: heavier training on a energy deficit and on a compound that slows gastric emptying requires attention to recovery (sleep, nutrition, stress). Recovery capacity declines with deficit, so training volume might need adjustment.

Someone should write this up properly, and it should probably not be me.

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y.mensahTL3Wiki editor18 Nov 2024#3

Worth separating two things that the opening post runs together.

Protein and training are complements rather than alternatives, and the published work on lean-tissue preservation treats them that way.

I am reporting what happened, not recommending it.

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h.espinozaTL219 Nov 2024#4
y.mensah, post #3: Worth separating two things that the opening post runs together. Protein and training are complements rather than alternatives, and the published work on lean-tissue preservation treats them that way. I am reporting what happened, not recommending it. Go to post

Where somebody is losing strength rapidly, the first questions are intake, sleep and total training volume, in that order.

Written in the hope of being told what I have missed.

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slow_titratorTL2Regular20 Nov 2024#5

Coming back to post #3, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Volume: the number of sets per muscle group per week that supports muscle maintenance is roughly 12 to 18 hard sets. That varies by individual but gives a target range.

The variance between people here is larger than the effect being discussed.

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