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[2026 update] People with a low starting BMI: where the evidence stops

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v.bhattacharyaTL2 Moderator24 Aug 2024#1

People with a low starting BMI: where the evidence stops Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did.

Asking about a population rather than about a person.

The published trials in this class mostly enrolled a fairly specific group, and the questions here frequently come from people well outside it. I would like to understand what the honest position is when someone falls outside the studied population: not "it is fine" and not "there is no data", but what the reasoning actually looks like.

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g.pemberton_ukTL3Regional · UK25 Aug 2024 · edited#2

Pancreatitis history: the compounds can rarely trigger pancreatitis. A history of pancreatitis makes monitoring for recurrence more important during titration.

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k.batistaTL2 Moderator26 Aug 2024#3

I read the opening post twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Adolescents: a distinct evidence base exists. The compounds are not approved for routine adolescent obesity but are being studied. Adolescent physiology and psychology differ from adults' in ways that matter for this medication class.

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crossover_reviewTL3Regular27 Aug 2024#4

Pregnancy and planning: these compounds are not approved for use in pregnancy. Planning windows (how long to wait before attempting pregnancy) are not formally established. Conservative approaches wait several months to allow clearance.

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m.guerreroTL2 Moderator28 Aug 2024#5
v.bhattacharya, post #1: People with a low starting BMI: where the evidence stops Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. Asking about a population rather than about a person. The published trials in this class mostly enrolled a fairly specific group, and the questions here frequently come from people well outside it.… Go to post

Hypoglycemia risk: in people already on insulin or sulfonylureas, adding a GLP-1 agonist requires insulin dose reduction and close monitoring for hypoglycemia. This is manageable with attention.

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methods_marginTL3Regular29 Aug 2024#6

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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n.kaufmannTL2 Moderator29 Aug 2024#7

Coming back to post #5, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Gastroparesis: pre-existing severe delayed gastric emptying can worsen with compounds that slow it further. Discussion with a clinician is prudent if this history exists.

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stopper_traceTL2Member30 Aug 2024#8
crossover_review, post #4: Pregnancy and planning: these compounds are not approved for use in pregnancy. Planning windows (how long to wait before attempting pregnancy) are not formally established. Conservative approaches wait several months to allow clearance. Go to post

Picking up post #5: that is the part I would want checked first.

Medullary thyroid carcinoma history: an absolute contraindication because of the preclinical findings in rodent toxicology. The history (personal or family, especially multiple endocrine neoplasia type 2) is an important screening question.

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m.amankwahTL2 Moderator31 Aug 2024 · edited#9
k.batista, post #3: I read the opening post twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Adolescents: a distinct evidence base exists. The compounds are not approved for routine adolescent obesity but are being studied. Adolescent physiology and psychology differ from adults' in ways that matter for this medication class. Go to post

Worth separating two things that post #5 runs together.

Renal impairment: the compounds are cleared renally to some degree. Dose adjustments might be needed in severe renal impairment. Consulting with a clinician familiar with renal dosing is prudent.

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vial_slopeTL3Regular31 Aug 2024#10
v.bhattacharya, post #1: People with a low starting BMI: where the evidence stops Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. Asking about a population rather than about a person. The published trials in this class mostly enrolled a fairly specific group, and the questions here frequently come from people well outside it.… Go to post

Hepatic impairment: less is known about dosing in significant liver disease than in kidney disease. Extreme caution applies because the liver metabolises a large fraction of many medications.

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e.lokkenTL2 Moderator1 Sep 2024#11

Disordered eating history: a history of anorexia nervosa, bulimia, or other eating disorders changes the risk-benefit calculation because appetite suppression might trigger relapse. This population requires specialist input.

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c.rasmussenTL2 Moderator2 Sep 2024 · edited#12
crossover_review, post #4: Pregnancy and planning: these compounds are not approved for use in pregnancy. Planning windows (how long to wait before attempting pregnancy) are not formally established. Conservative approaches wait several months to allow clearance. Go to post

Hepatic impairment: less is known about dosing in significant liver disease than in kidney disease. Extreme caution applies because the liver metabolises a large fraction of many medications.

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j.nascimentoTL2 Moderator2 Sep 2024#13
n.kaufmann, post #7: Coming back to post #5, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Gastroparesis: pre-existing severe delayed gastric emptying can worsen with compounds that slow it further. Discussion with a clinician is prudent if this history exists. Go to post

Picking up post #10: that is the part I would want checked first.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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c.bakkerTL2 Moderator3 Sep 2024#14

Coming back to post #12, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Adolescents: a distinct evidence base exists. The compounds are not approved for routine adolescent obesity but are being studied. Adolescent physiology and psychology differ from adults' in ways that matter for this medication class.

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m.brobergTL2 Moderator4 Sep 2024#15

Pancreatitis history: the compounds can rarely trigger pancreatitis. A history of pancreatitis makes monitoring for recurrence more important during titration.

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s.leclercTL4 Moderator4 Sep 2024#16

Older adults: sarcopenia risk is higher, polypharmacy is common, and the clinical trials did not enroll many people over 75. Extrapolating to very old people is extrapolating beyond the data.

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a.wikstromTL2 Moderator5 Sep 2024#17
e.lokken, post #11: Disordered eating history: a history of anorexia nervosa, bulimia, or other eating disorders changes the risk-benefit calculation because appetite suppression might trigger relapse. This population requires specialist input. Go to post

This follows post #14 rather than contradicting it.

Medullary thyroid carcinoma history: an absolute contraindication because of the preclinical findings in rodent toxicology. The history (personal or family, especially multiple endocrine neoplasia type 2) is an important screening question.

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chromatogramTL45 Sep 2024#18
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t.dumitruTL2 Moderator6 Sep 2024#19
methods_margin, post #6: For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use. Go to post

post #18 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Pregnancy and planning: these compounds are not approved for use in pregnancy. Planning windows (how long to wait before attempting pregnancy) are not formally established. Conservative approaches wait several months to allow clearance.

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endo_fellow_rkTL3Endocrinology fellow6 Sep 2024#20
vial_slope, post #10: Hepatic impairment: less is known about dosing in significant liver disease than in kidney disease. Extreme caution applies because the liver metabolises a large fraction of many medications. Go to post

On post #16 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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a.lindholmTL2 Moderator7 Sep 2024#21

Disordered eating history: a history of anorexia nervosa, bulimia, or other eating disorders changes the risk-benefit calculation because appetite suppression might trigger relapse. This population requires specialist input.

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c.delgadoTL2 Moderator8 Sep 2024#22

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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s.bruunTL2 Moderator8 Sep 2024#23
m.broberg, post #15: Pancreatitis history: the compounds can rarely trigger pancreatitis. A history of pancreatitis makes monitoring for recurrence more important during titration. Go to post

Renal impairment: the compounds are cleared renally to some degree. Dose adjustments might be needed in severe renal impairment. Consulting with a clinician familiar with renal dosing is prudent.

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b.demirTL2 Moderator9 Sep 2024 · edited#24

This follows post #21 rather than contradicting it.

Hypoglycemia risk: in people already on insulin or sulfonylureas, adding a GLP-1 agonist requires insulin dose reduction and close monitoring for hypoglycemia. This is manageable with attention.

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