The Peptide CommonsEst. May 2024
Independent. We sell nothing and are affiliated with no manufacturer or pharmacy. Every moderation action is logged in public
Analytics · Impurities & related substances · continued

Deamidation and the close-eluting pair it produces posts 31–38

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

RC
r.coelhoTL2 Moderator24 Apr 2025 · edited#31
d.vukovic, post #19: Related substances: compounds chemically related to the target peptide but not the target peptide itself. The standard method separates them and reports them as area percent. How related they can be before they exceed specification is a regulatory question. Go to post

This follows post #28 rather than contradicting it.

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

0 likes in reply to #19 15mo
M
MJayawardenaTL3Regular25 Apr 2025#32
e.halonen, post #27: Coming back to post #25, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage. Go to post

Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage.

2 likes in reply to #27 15mo
BT
b.teixeiraTL2 Moderator27 Apr 2025#33

Incomplete deprotection: mass higher by the protecting group mass. Usually markedly later eluting. A synthesis artifact from incomplete removal of protecting groups.

8 likes 15mo
EM
endpoint_marginTL2Member29 Apr 2025#34

Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

20 likes 15mo
AK
ar.kravchenkoTL2 Moderator30 Apr 2025#35
p.mwangi, post #25: Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post

Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method.

0 likes in reply to #25 15mo
K
KStephanopoulosTL3Regular2 May 2025#36

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

0 likes 15mo
MO
m.oyelaranTL2 Moderator3 May 2025#37

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

5 likes 15mo
G
GSwinburneTL1Member5 May 2025#38

On post #34 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis.

14 likes 15mo

Suggested topics

TopicParticipantsRepliesViewsActivity
Impurity thresholds: where the common numbers come from
Impurity thresholds: where the common numbers come from — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. A documentation question rather than an analytical one. I have a certificate in…
MRDNLAPOBP+11 15 825 2d
Second pass at: Where impurities in solid-phase peptide synthesis come from
Second pass at: Where impurities in solid-phase peptide synthesis come from Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. A documentation question rather than an…
GHDBEVLSMP+4 8 7.2k 1mo
[2026 update] A rising related-substance total over six months: degradation or method drift?
The question in the title: A rising related-substance total over six months: degradation or method drift? I will give what I have already checked below so nobody repeats it. Posting the method first, because…
CDASHKBSL+71 78 34k 5mo
Trifluoroacetate content and its consequences
Trifluoroacetate content and its consequences — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. A documentation question rather than an analytical one. I have a certificate in front of me…
AIRDRVHFAV+123 134 31k 5mo
Revisiting: Aggregates and why a purity assay may miss them entirely
Posting this under the heading it deserves: Revisiting: Aggregates and why a purity assay may miss them entirely Everything below is what sits behind that. I would like to understand what this number means…
LVNCOLNVMS+48 53 918 8mo

Related topics — sharing the tags forced degradation, HPLC, water content

TopicParticipantsRepliesViewsActivity
Area percent versus weight percent: the confusion that causes most arguments
Posting this under the heading it deserves: Area percent versus weight percent: the confusion that causes most arguments Everything below is what sits behind that. Posting the method first, because I know…
ADSVCDFNAD+10 14 2.1k 2mo
Designing a personal experiment that could change your mind — one year on
Designing a personal experiment that could change your mind — one year on — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. Session topic: STEP 4 ( JAMA , 2021). Please read it before…
TKNMPMBSMC+74 80 17k 2d
Revisiting: List price versus negotiated price versus what you pay
Revisiting: List price versus negotiated price versus what you pay — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. A coverage question with the paperwork detail included, since that is…
VKBVIABDGR+24 28 50k 12mo
Why most self-reports here are not experiments, and that is fine
Why most self-reports here are not experiments, and that is fine — that is the question, and I have not found it answered plainly anywhere I have looked. I have seen SURPASS-2 ( N Engl J Med , 2021) cited in…
SBSKGF 2 46k 11mo
A 40-week log with the measurement method stated
On the subject in the title: A 40-week log with the measurement method stated Working notes rather than a conclusion. Longitudinal report with the method stated, because a number without a method is not a…
SMCRRSGPRN+87 97 18k 9mo