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Oral contraceptives and delayed emptying: what the data shows posts 31–60

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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n.rowntreeTL3Regular11 Jul 2024 · edited#31

SGLT2 inhibitors: frequently co-administered and relevant to renal and cardiovascular discussion, not to interactions. There is no pharmacokinetic interaction of concern.

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p.fontaineTL2 Moderator12 Jul 2024#32

post #31 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Oral medications versus time: if you take an oral medication 30 minutes before semaglutide (which slows gastric emptying), the delayed stomach emptying affects when and where the oral medication is absorbed. Separating by a larger interval (1 to 2 hours) usually resolves this.

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footnote_entryTL3Regular12 Jul 2024#33

Coming back to post #31, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Alcohol: no absolute contraindication but it raises gastrointestinal irritation risk and this drug class already does that. The conservative position during titration is to limit it.

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k.kuuselaTL2 Moderator12 Jul 2024#34
b.jansen, post #17: Metformin: commonly co-administered and relevant to gastrointestinal tolerability. Gastrointestinal side effects can overlap and additive. Taking them separately or adjusting one if tolerability is poor are reasonable approaches. Go to post

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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KStephanopoulosTL3Regular12 Jul 2024#35

Worth separating two things that post #31 runs together.

Vitamins: most vitamins have no significant interaction. Fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E, K) might be affected by the slowing of fat absorption during weight loss, but that is a nutritional consequence rather than an interaction.

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h.castellanosTL2 Moderator12 Jul 2024#36

post #35 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Thyroid medications: semaglutide is associated with a slowing of gastric emptying, which might affect thyroid medication absorption if they are taken very close together. Separating them by a few hours is the conservative approach.

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IsaksenTL3Regular13 Jul 2024#37

Separation timing versus clinically important interaction: a separation timing inconvenience (taking one medication 2 hours before or after another) is not the same as a clinically important interaction. Both can reduce absorption of one or the other, but only true interactions require active management.

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s.vogelTL2 Moderator13 Jul 2024#38
e.pires, post #23: SGLT2 inhibitors: frequently co-administered and relevant to renal and cardiovascular discussion, not to interactions. There is no pharmacokinetic interaction of concern. Go to post

Anticoagulants: no direct interaction with the compounds in this class. Weight loss and body composition changes might affect the clearance or effect of warfarin if you are on it; monitoring INR more frequently during weight loss is reasonable.

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bench_peakTL3Regular13 Jul 2024#39
d.eriksen, post #3: Picking up post #2: that is the part I would want checked first. Oral medications versus time: if you take an oral medication 30 minutes before semaglutide (which slows gastric emptying), the delayed stomach emptying affects when and where the oral medication is absorbed. Separating by a larger interval (1 to 2 hours) usually resolves… Go to post

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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t.batistaTL2 Moderator13 Jul 2024 · edited#40

Insulin interaction: semaglutide and tirzepatide are not contraindicated with insulin but the combination carries hypoglycemia risk if insulin doses are not adjusted. That is a reason for close monitoring, not for avoiding the combination.

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r.scholtenTL2Member13 Jul 2024#41

Supplements and herbs: many have no established interaction. Some do. If you are taking something unusual, checking a reference (like a pharmacist) is more useful than guessing from forum discussion.

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ar.petrovTL2 Moderator14 Jul 2024 · edited#42

Metformin: commonly co-administered and relevant to gastrointestinal tolerability. Gastrointestinal side effects can overlap and additive. Taking them separately or adjusting one if tolerability is poor are reasonable approaches.

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f.fenwickTL3Regular14 Jul 2024#43
f.amankwah, post #24: Two things before anyone answers the substance. First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound. Go to post

Picking up post #40: that is the part I would want checked first.

Food interactions: most interactions are absorption interactions. Some medications absorb better with food, others better on an empty stomach. With an incretin agonist that already slows gastric emptying, food effects interact with the drug effect as well.

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l.aguirreTL2 Moderator14 Jul 2024#44
KStephanopoulos, post #35: Worth separating two things that post #31 runs together. Vitamins: most vitamins have no significant interaction. Fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E, K) might be affected by the slowing of fat absorption during weight loss, but that is a nutritional consequence rather than an interaction. Go to post

Coming back to post #42, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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diluent_watchTL2Member14 Jul 2024#45

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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o.nybergTL214 Jul 2024#46
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ZieglerTL3Regular15 Jul 2024#47
n.rowntree, post #31: SGLT2 inhibitors: frequently co-administered and relevant to renal and cardiovascular discussion, not to interactions. There is no pharmacokinetic interaction of concern. Go to post

This follows post #44 rather than contradicting it.

Anticoagulants: no direct interaction with the compounds in this class. Weight loss and body composition changes might affect the clearance or effect of warfarin if you are on it; monitoring INR more frequently during weight loss is reasonable.

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g.verhoevenTL2 Moderator15 Jul 2024#48

I read post #46 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Separation timing versus clinically important interaction: a separation timing inconvenience (taking one medication 2 hours before or after another) is not the same as a clinically important interaction. Both can reduce absorption of one or the other, but only true interactions require active management.

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k.fonsecaTL2 Moderator15 Jul 2024#49

Thyroid medications: semaglutide is associated with a slowing of gastric emptying, which might affect thyroid medication absorption if they are taken very close together. Separating them by a few hours is the conservative approach.

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k.vanheckeTL2 Moderator15 Jul 2024#50

Vitamins: most vitamins have no significant interaction. Fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, E, K) might be affected by the slowing of fat absorption during weight loss, but that is a nutritional consequence rather than an interaction.

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b.vanheckeTL2 Moderator15 Jul 2024#51

I read post #49 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Insulin interaction: semaglutide and tirzepatide are not contraindicated with insulin but the combination carries hypoglycemia risk if insulin doses are not adjusted. That is a reason for close monitoring, not for avoiding the combination.

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m.strand_rphTL3Pharmacist16 Jul 2024#52
b.vanhecke, post #5: Food interactions: most interactions are absorption interactions. Some medications absorb better with food, others better on an empty stomach. With an incretin agonist that already slows gastric emptying, food effects interact with the drug effect as well. Go to post

Metformin: commonly co-administered and relevant to gastrointestinal tolerability. Gastrointestinal side effects can overlap and additive. Taking them separately or adjusting one if tolerability is poor are reasonable approaches.

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d.eriksenTL2 Moderator16 Jul 2024#53

Food interactions: most interactions are absorption interactions. Some medications absorb better with food, others better on an empty stomach. With an incretin agonist that already slows gastric emptying, food effects interact with the drug effect as well.

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j.mwangiTL4 Moderator16 Jul 2024 · edited#54

post #53 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Sulfonylureas and meglitinides: these agents stimulate insulin release and carry hypoglycemia risk. Combining them with semaglutide or tirzepatide requires dose adjustment of the secretagogue and close monitoring. The combination is not contraindicated but requires active management.

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s.kimaniTL2 Moderator16 Jul 2024#55
e.pires, post #23: SGLT2 inhibitors: frequently co-administered and relevant to renal and cardiovascular discussion, not to interactions. There is no pharmacokinetic interaction of concern. Go to post

Oral medications versus time: if you take an oral medication 30 minutes before semaglutide (which slows gastric emptying), the delayed stomach emptying affects when and where the oral medication is absorbed. Separating by a larger interval (1 to 2 hours) usually resolves this.

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n.haddadTL2 Moderator16 Jul 2024#56
m.dumitru, post #11: Coming back to post #9, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Anticoagulants: no direct interaction with the compounds in this class. Weight loss and body composition changes might affect the clearance or effect of warfarin if you are on it; monitoring INR more frequently during weight loss is reasonable. Go to post

SGLT2 inhibitors: frequently co-administered and relevant to renal and cardiovascular discussion, not to interactions. There is no pharmacokinetic interaction of concern.

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n.stanescuTL2 Moderator16 Jul 2024#57

On post #53 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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j.nwosuTL2 Moderator17 Jul 2024#58

post #57 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Supplements and herbs: many have no established interaction. Some do. If you are taking something unusual, checking a reference (like a pharmacist) is more useful than guessing from forum discussion.

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y.ibarraTL2 Moderator17 Jul 2024#59

Alcohol: no absolute contraindication but it raises gastrointestinal irritation risk and this drug class already does that. The conservative position during titration is to limit it.

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plateau_notesTL2Regular17 Jul 2024#60

Food interactions: most interactions are absorption interactions. Some medications absorb better with food, others better on an empty stomach. With an incretin agonist that already slows gastric emptying, food effects interact with the drug effect as well.

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