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Racemisation and why it is invisible to a mass measurement posts 61–90

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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WoodhouseTL2Member12 Jun 2026#61

Picking up post #58: that is the part I would want checked first.

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

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s.radichTL2 Moderator12 Jun 2026 · edited#62
h.agyeman, post #60: Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method. Go to post

Coming back to post #60, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis.

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gradient_fileTL2Member12 Jun 2026#63

Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method.

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f.espinozaTL2 Moderator12 Jun 2026#64

Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated.

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cohort_notesTL212 Jun 2026#65
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s.kravchenkoTL2 Moderator12 Jun 2026#66
cannula_trace, post #57: Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage. Go to post

I read post #64 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Disulfide formation: if a peptide contains cysteine, it can form disulfide bonds with itself or with other molecules. Under oxidising conditions multiple species appear. Reducing conditions (like DTT) convert them back.

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glossary_checkTL2Member12 Jun 2026#67

post #66 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Residual solvents: traces of solvents used in purification. These are usually tested by gas chromatography, not by HPLC. A specification for residual solvents should be stated separately from the purity.

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s.perrinTL2 Moderator12 Jun 2026#68

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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erratum_fileTL3Regular12 Jun 2026 · edited#69

Oxidation at methionine and tryptophan: adds 16 per oxygen. Usually elutes earlier. Oxidation is common in storage, especially if the solution is exposed to light or if antioxidants are not present.

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an.kirchnerTL2 Moderator12 Jun 2026#70
sharps_bin, post #53: Acetate content: counter-ion content. Trifluoroacetate or acetate from the salt form of the peptide. Affects mass calculations and should be stated on a complete certificate. Go to post

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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i.wojcikTL2 Moderator12 Jun 2026#71

On post #67 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Acetate content: counter-ion content. Trifluoroacetate or acetate from the salt form of the peptide. Affects mass calculations and should be stated on a complete certificate.

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VPoulsenTL3Regular12 Jun 2026#72
appeals_desk, post #28: Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage. Go to post

Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage.

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b.friskTL2 Moderator12 Jun 2026#73
p.amankwah, post #5: Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard. Go to post

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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bench_entryTL3Regular12 Jun 2026#74

Incomplete deprotection: mass higher by the protecting group mass. Usually markedly later eluting. A synthesis artifact from incomplete removal of protecting groups.

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g.oyelaranTL2 Moderator12 Jun 2026#75

Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

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t.kulkarniTL3Regular12 Jun 2026#76

Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method.

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s.salgadoTL2 Moderator13 Jun 2026#77
a.reyes, post #13: Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage. Go to post

Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis.

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integrator_logTL3Regular13 Jun 2026#78

This follows post #75 rather than contradicting it.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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d.vestergaardTL2 Moderator13 Jun 2026#79
t.kulkarni, post #32: post #31 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit. I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological. The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this,… Go to post

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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vial_tableTL2Member13 Jun 2026 · edited#80
n.moreau, post #15: Coming back to post #13, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing. The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough. Go to post

Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated.

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IMainwaringTL3Regular13 Jun 2026#81
h.iyer, post #46: On post #42 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated. Go to post

post #80 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Oxidation at methionine and tryptophan: adds 16 per oxygen. Usually elutes earlier. Oxidation is common in storage, especially if the solution is exposed to light or if antioxidants are not present.

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l.lundgrenTL2 Moderator13 Jun 2026#82

Deamidation at asparagine and glutamine: adds 1 approximately. Frequently appears as a close-eluting pair. It is a chemical modification that occurs during storage.

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TamburelloTL2Member13 Jun 2026#83

Incomplete deprotection: mass higher by the protecting group mass. Usually markedly later eluting. A synthesis artifact from incomplete removal of protecting groups.

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v.okonkwoTL2 Moderator13 Jun 2026#84
c.amankwah, post #20: Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard. Go to post

Coming back to post #82, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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vial_slopeTL3Regular13 Jun 2026#85

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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m.amankwahTL2 Moderator13 Jun 2026#86

Acetate content: counter-ion content. Trifluoroacetate or acetate from the salt form of the peptide. Affects mass calculations and should be stated on a complete certificate.

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NLoughranTL3Regular13 Jun 2026 · edited#87

This follows post #84 rather than contradicting it.

Related substances: compounds chemically related to the target peptide but not the target peptide itself. The standard method separates them and reports them as area percent. How related they can be before they exceed specification is a regulatory question.

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i.beaulieuTL2 Moderator13 Jun 2026#88
c.bakker, post #30: I read post #28 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage. Go to post

I read post #86 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Disulfide formation: if a peptide contains cysteine, it can form disulfide bonds with itself or with other molecules. Under oxidising conditions multiple species appear. Reducing conditions (like DTT) convert them back.

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methods_marginTL3Regular13 Jun 2026#89
s.perrin, post #68: Two things before anyone answers the substance. First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound. Go to post

Residual solvents: traces of solvents used in purification. These are usually tested by gas chromatography, not by HPLC. A specification for residual solvents should be stated separately from the purity.

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m.guerreroTL2 Moderator13 Jun 2026#90
methods_margin, post #89: Residual solvents: traces of solvents used in purification. These are usually tested by gas chromatography, not by HPLC. A specification for residual solvents should be stated separately from the purity. Go to post

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

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