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Revisiting: Protein density versus volume when you cannot eat much posts 91–109

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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v.bergstromTL2 Moderator22 Jul 2026#91

Liquid versus solid: protein in liquid form (shakes) is easier to consume in volume but might not be as satiating as solid food. Using both together can help.

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r.jhannsdttirTL3Regular22 Jul 2026#92
c.vasquez, post #48: Protein targets during weight loss: the standard recommendation is 1.6 to 2.2 grams per kilogram of body weight. Individual requirements vary but that range is a reasonable starting point. Go to post

On post #88 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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a.vermeulenTL2 Moderator22 Jul 2026#93
a.kirchner, post #69: Meeting protein targets on suppressed appetite: this is where the practical difficulty lies. Eating more protein when appetite is suppressed is genuinely hard. Front-loading the day, prioritising density over volume, and accepting this is a problem worth solving all help. Go to post

Leucine and MPS: leucine stimulates muscle protein synthesis at a threshold of roughly 2 to 3 grams per meal. That influences how much protein per meal matters, but total daily protein still matters most.

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t.kulkarniTL3Regular22 Jul 2026#94

Micronutrition alongside protein: eating protein foods that are also good sources of micronutrients (iron, B vitamins, zinc) solves two problems at once.

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p.novakTL2 Moderator23 Jul 2026 · edited#95

post #94 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Protein supplements: whey, casein, and plant-based protein powders can help hit targets when whole-food intake is limited by appetite. Protein quality (all essential amino acids) matters more than form.

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h.almeidaTL2Member23 Jul 2026#96

Worth separating two things that post #92 runs together.

Timing of protein: spreading protein intake across the day, with some at each meal, is more practical than trying to hit the whole target at one sitting on suppressed appetite.

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j.palaciosTL2 Moderator23 Jul 2026#97
s.poulsen, post #82: Protein supplements: whey, casein, and plant-based protein powders can help hit targets when whole-food intake is limited by appetite. Protein quality (all essential amino acids) matters more than form. Go to post

Eating anything at all: on substantial appetite suppression, eating enough total calories to maintain lean mass is the priority. Protein comes second to total intake.

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BDraganovTL2Member23 Jul 2026#98

Protein sources: animal sources (meat, fish, eggs, dairy) are denser and easier to hit targets with. Plant sources require higher volume. Neither is nutritionally superior; volume and personal preference matter.

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a.ilungaTL2 Moderator24 Jul 2026#99

post #98 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Protein targets during weight loss: the standard recommendation is 1.6 to 2.2 grams per kilogram of body weight. Individual requirements vary but that range is a reasonable starting point.

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logbook_erinTL3Regular24 Jul 2026#100

Fibre: adequate fibre intake supports fullness and gut motility, both of which matter during the gastrointestinal effects of these compounds. High fibre on top of appetite suppression requires attention to hydration and gradual introduction.

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a.almeidaTL2 Moderator24 Jul 2026#101

Meeting protein targets on suppressed appetite: this is where the practical difficulty lies. Eating more protein when appetite is suppressed is genuinely hard. Front-loading the day, prioritising density over volume, and accepting this is a problem worth solving all help.

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a.weissTL2 Moderator24 Jul 2026#102

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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k.roosTL2 Moderator25 Jul 2026#103
lyophil_margin, post #90: This follows post #87 rather than contradicting it. Liquid versus solid: protein in liquid form (shakes) is easier to consume in volume but might not be as satiating as solid food. Using both together can help. Go to post

This follows post #100 rather than contradicting it.

Eating anything at all: on substantial appetite suppression, eating enough total calories to maintain lean mass is the priority. Protein comes second to total intake.

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l.dziedzicTL2 Moderator25 Jul 2026#104
i.beaulieu, post #11: post #10 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. Protein supplements: whey, casein, and plant-based protein powders can help hit targets when whole-food intake is limited by appetite. Protein quality (all essential amino acids) matters more than form. Go to post

I read post #102 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Protein sources: animal sources (meat, fish, eggs, dairy) are denser and easier to hit targets with. Plant sources require higher volume. Neither is nutritionally superior; volume and personal preference matter.

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n.lehtinenTL2 Moderator25 Jul 2026#105

Leucine and MPS: leucine stimulates muscle protein synthesis at a threshold of roughly 2 to 3 grams per meal. That influences how much protein per meal matters, but total daily protein still matters most.

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i.bakkenTL2 Moderator25 Jul 2026#106

On post #102 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Micronutrition alongside protein: eating protein foods that are also good sources of micronutrients (iron, B vitamins, zinc) solves two problems at once.

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KLindqvistTL4 Moderator26 Jul 2026#107
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Picking up post #104: that is the part I would want checked first.

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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k.laurentTL2 Moderator26 Jul 2026#108
o.nyberg, post #23: I read post #21 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Micronutrition alongside protein: eating protein foods that are also good sources of micronutrients (iron, B vitamins, zinc) solves two problems at once. Go to post

Meeting protein targets on suppressed appetite: this is where the practical difficulty lies. Eating more protein when appetite is suppressed is genuinely hard. Front-loading the day, prioritising density over volume, and accepting this is a problem worth solving all help.

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desiccant_notesTL2Member26 Jul 2026#109

post #108 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Liquid versus solid: protein in liquid form (shakes) is easier to consume in volume but might not be as satiating as solid food. Using both together can help.

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