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Two sessions a week versus four: what the evidence supports

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BDraganovTL2Member8 Nov 2024#1

On the subject in the title: Two sessions a week versus four: what the evidence supports Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Longitudinal report with the method stated, because a number without a method is not a measurement.

Same scale, same time of day, same conditions, 47 weeks. I have also recorded protein intake and resistance-training sessions, both self-reported and both therefore optimistic.

The reason I am posting is a pattern in the middle of the series that I cannot explain and that I suspect is measurement rather than signal.

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k.chukwuTL2 Moderator10 Nov 2024 · edited#2

Maintenance is the goal: preserving lean mass and strength during weight loss is the goal of resistance training in this context, not building new muscle. That goal is usually achievable with consistent, moderate training.

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KForsbergTL2Member12 Nov 2024#3
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Frequency: three sessions per week of full-body training is easier to maintain than higher frequencies on an energy deficit. Consistency beats intensity when recovery capacity is limited.

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k.kimaniTL2 Moderator14 Nov 2024#4

Worth separating two things that post #2 runs together.

Intensity: using weights that allow 6 to 12 reps before fatigue is a reasonable range for preserving muscle. Heavier weights with lower reps can work but require more recovery.

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e.lehtinenTL2 Moderator15 Nov 2024#5
BDraganov, post #1: On the subject in the title: Two sessions a week versus four: what the evidence supports Working notes rather than a conclusion. Longitudinal report with the method stated, because a number without a method is not a measurement. Same scale, same time of day, same conditions, 47 weeks. I have also recorded protein intake and… Go to post

Picking up post #2: that is the part I would want checked first.

Volume: the number of sets per muscle group per week that supports muscle maintenance is roughly 12 to 18 hard sets. That varies by individual but gives a target range.

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b.aaltoTL2 Moderator16 Nov 2024#6

Coming back to post #4, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Adaptation and plateau: if strength does not change for weeks, that is stability, not backsliding. Expecting continuous progress during weight loss is unrealistic.

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r.friskTL2 Moderator18 Nov 2024#7

Cardio and resistance: the interaction between energy-intense cardiovascular training and resistance training is real. Moderate cardio is fine; excessive endurance training can interfere with muscle maintenance.

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h.ferrariTL2 Moderator19 Nov 2024#8

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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v.baptistaTL2 Moderator20 Nov 2024#9

Deload weeks: periodic weeks (every 4 to 8 weeks) with reduced volume and intensity can help with recovery and sometimes reveal strength gains that got obscured by fatigue.

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bench_notesTL4 Moderator21 Nov 2024#10
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Post-weight-loss training: once weight loss is complete and energy deficit ends, training can shift to building again. The transition from preservation mode to building mode is real and worth planning.

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n.vogelTL2 Moderator22 Nov 2024#11
k.chukwu, post #2: Maintenance is the goal: preserving lean mass and strength during weight loss is the goal of resistance training in this context, not building new muscle. That goal is usually achievable with consistent, moderate training. Go to post

Worth separating two things that post #7 runs together.

Programming while losing weight quickly: realistic expectations are crucial. Strength often stays surprisingly stable; power output might decline slightly. Expecting gains during an energy deficit sets yourself up for disappointment.

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o.cousineauTL3Regular23 Nov 2024#12

Recovery: heavier training on a energy deficit and on a compound that slows gastric emptying requires attention to recovery (sleep, nutrition, stress). Recovery capacity declines with deficit, so training volume might need adjustment.

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d.barrosTL2 Moderator24 Nov 2024#13

Adaptation and plateau: if strength does not change for weeks, that is stability, not backsliding. Expecting continuous progress during weight loss is unrealistic.

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m.ivaturiTL2 Moderator25 Nov 2024#14

Volume: the number of sets per muscle group per week that supports muscle maintenance is roughly 12 to 18 hard sets. That varies by individual but gives a target range.

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c.adebayoTL2 Moderator26 Nov 2024#15
k.kimani, post #4: Worth separating two things that post #2 runs together. Intensity: using weights that allow 6 to 12 reps before fatigue is a reasonable range for preserving muscle. Heavier weights with lower reps can work but require more recovery. Go to post

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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h.karlsenTL2 Moderator27 Nov 2024#16

Post-weight-loss training: once weight loss is complete and energy deficit ends, training can shift to building again. The transition from preservation mode to building mode is real and worth planning.

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v.fontaineTL2 Moderator28 Nov 2024#17

Maintenance is the goal: preserving lean mass and strength during weight loss is the goal of resistance training in this context, not building new muscle. That goal is usually achievable with consistent, moderate training.

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z.yildizTL2 Moderator29 Nov 2024#18

Picking up post #15: that is the part I would want checked first.

Recovery: heavier training on a energy deficit and on a compound that slows gastric emptying requires attention to recovery (sleep, nutrition, stress). Recovery capacity declines with deficit, so training volume might need adjustment.

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p.boatengTL2 Moderator30 Nov 2024#19
r.frisk, post #7: Cardio and resistance: the interaction between energy-intense cardiovascular training and resistance training is real. Moderate cardio is fine; excessive endurance training can interfere with muscle maintenance. Go to post

Cardio and resistance: the interaction between energy-intense cardiovascular training and resistance training is real. Moderate cardio is fine; excessive endurance training can interfere with muscle maintenance.

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l.chevalierTL3Regular1 Dec 2024#20
KForsberg, post #3: Frequency: three sessions per week of full-body training is easier to maintain than higher frequencies on an energy deficit. Consistency beats intensity when recovery capacity is limited. Go to post

Deload weeks: periodic weeks (every 4 to 8 weeks) with reduced volume and intensity can help with recovery and sometimes reveal strength gains that got obscured by fatigue.

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peak_purityTL3Analytical chemist2 Dec 2024#21

post #20 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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no.silvaTL2 Moderator3 Dec 2024#22

On post #18 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Intensity: using weights that allow 6 to 12 reps before fatigue is a reasonable range for preserving muscle. Heavier weights with lower reps can work but require more recovery.

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np_gilmoreTL3Nurse practitioner4 Dec 2024#23
c.adebayo, post #15: Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post

Programming while losing weight quickly: realistic expectations are crucial. Strength often stays surprisingly stable; power output might decline slightly. Expecting gains during an energy deficit sets yourself up for disappointment.

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r.mensaTL2 Moderator5 Dec 2024#24
peak_purity, post #21: post #20 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological. The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this,… Go to post

Frequency: three sessions per week of full-body training is easier to maintain than higher frequencies on an energy deficit. Consistency beats intensity when recovery capacity is limited.

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m.dalgaardTL3Regular6 Dec 2024#25

Cardio and resistance: the interaction between energy-intense cardiovascular training and resistance training is real. Moderate cardio is fine; excessive endurance training can interfere with muscle maintenance.

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a.jansenTL2 Moderator7 Dec 2024#26

Worth separating two things that post #22 runs together.

Deload weeks: periodic weeks (every 4 to 8 weeks) with reduced volume and intensity can help with recovery and sometimes reveal strength gains that got obscured by fatigue.

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e.adeyemiTL2 Moderator9 Dec 2024#28
peak_purity, post #21: post #20 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological. The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this,… Go to post

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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g.tanakaTL3Regular10 Dec 2024#29
e.adeyemi, post #28: Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing. The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough. Go to post

Recovery: heavier training on a energy deficit and on a compound that slows gastric emptying requires attention to recovery (sleep, nutrition, stress). Recovery capacity declines with deficit, so training volume might need adjustment.

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m.mwangiTL2 Moderator10 Dec 2024#30

Maintenance is the goal: preserving lean mass and strength during weight loss is the goal of resistance training in this context, not building new muscle. That goal is usually achievable with consistent, moderate training.

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