Protein intake and resistance training: both self-reported and therefore optimistic in most reports. Recording them anyway creates a record you can look back on.
4 likes 3mo
Outcomes · Progress reports · continued
A plateau that disappeared when I changed how I measured — the long version posts 31–55
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.
Picking up post #30: that is the part I would want checked first.
Longitudinal report with the method stated: same scale, same time of day, same conditions. A scale is a tool; use the same one each time. Consistency matters more than accuracy at capturing absolute weight.
0 likes 3mo
chromatogram, post #24: post #23 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit. Protein intake and resistance training: both self-reported and therefore optimistic in most reports. Recording them anyway creates a record you can look back on. Go to post
Measurement noise: day-to-day body mass varies by more than a kilogram on hydration, glycogen, and gut contents alone. A weekly reading is a single noisy sample of a distribution. A seven-day rolling mean of daily readings has much lower noise.
Collapsed as off-topic by two members at trust level 3 or above
This follows post #34 rather than contradicting it.
Rate of change: reporting progress as "lost 5 kg in 12 weeks" is more useful than "currently at 82 kg" because the rate tells you whether the change is steady, accelerating, or stalling.
m.adeyemi, post #23: Worth separating two things that post #19 runs together. Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post
I read post #36 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses.
j.iyer, post #10: This follows post #7 rather than contradicting it. Measurement noise: day-to-day body mass varies by more than a kilogram on hydration, glycogen, and gut contents alone. A weekly reading is a single noisy sample of a distribution. A seven-day rolling mean of daily readings has much lower noise. Go to post
post #38 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise.
On post #36 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Longitudinal report with the method stated: same scale, same time of day, same conditions. A scale is a tool; use the same one each time. Consistency matters more than accuracy at capturing absolute weight.
4 likes 2mo
On post #37 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Two things before anyone answers the substance.
First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.
0 likes 2mo
k.kimani, post #38: I read post #36 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses. Go to post
Seasonal patterns: some people report weight loss is slower in winter than summer. Body composition and activity changes might contribute. Noting the season is useful context.
Collapsed as off-topic by two members at trust level 3 or above
Plateaus and resets: if weight loss stalls and then resumes, that is ordinary. It is not evidence that the medication stopped working. It is not evidence that it is still working either. It is a data point in a longer record.
Worth separating two things that post #41 runs together.
Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses.
0 likes 2mo
septum_entry, post #37: This follows post #34 rather than contradicting it. Rate of change: reporting progress as "lost 5 kg in 12 weeks" is more useful than "currently at 82 kg" because the rate tells you whether the change is steady, accelerating, or stalling. Go to post
post #45 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.
Rate of change: reporting progress as "lost 5 kg in 12 weeks" is more useful than "currently at 82 kg" because the rate tells you whether the change is steady, accelerating, or stalling.
Protein intake and resistance training: both self-reported and therefore optimistic in most reports. Recording them anyway creates a record you can look back on.
5 likes 2mo
j.delacroix, post #46: post #45 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit. Rate of change: reporting progress as "lost 5 kg in 12 weeks" is more useful than "currently at 82 kg" because the rate tells you whether the change is steady, accelerating, or stalling. Go to post
Medication changes: escalating dose, or adding or removing other medications, can affect the rate of weight loss. Documenting medication changes alongside weight makes the record interpretable.
post #49 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
Plateaus and resets: if weight loss stalls and then resumes, that is ordinary. It is not evidence that the medication stopped working. It is not evidence that it is still working either. It is a data point in a longer record.
21 likes 1mo
Coming back to post #50, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.
Two things before anyone answers the substance.
First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.
10 likes 1mo
bench_entry, post #52: Coming back to post #50, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Two things before anyone answers the substance. First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound. Go to post
Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise.
i.broberg, post #12: Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post
Longitudinal report with the method stated: same scale, same time of day, same conditions. A scale is a tool; use the same one each time. Consistency matters more than accuracy at capturing absolute weight.
This follows post #52 rather than contradicting it.
Rate of change: reporting progress as "lost 5 kg in 12 weeks" is more useful than "currently at 82 kg" because the rate tells you whether the change is steady, accelerating, or stalling.
1 like 1mo
Suggested topics
| Topic | Participants | Replies | Views | Activity |
|---|---|---|---|---|
|
Seven-day rolling means and why weekly readings mislead — one year on
On the subject in the title: Seven-day rolling means and why weekly readings mislead — one year on Working notes rather than a conclusion. Longitudinal report with the method stated, because a number without…
|
+78 | 88 | 16k | 5mo |
|
Comparing my trajectory with the trial curves, carefully
Posting this under the heading it deserves: Comparing my trajectory with the trial curves, carefully Everything below is what sits behind that. Maintenance rather than loss, which is the part of this that…
|
+86 | 92 | 54k | 7mo |
|
What I would record differently if I started again — the long version
What I would record differently if I started again — the long version I have a specific reason for asking rather than idle curiosity, and the context is below. Maintenance rather than loss, which is the part…
|
+22 | 26 | 57k | 5mo |
|
A 40-week log with the measurement method stated
On the subject in the title: A 40-week log with the measurement method stated Working notes rather than a conclusion. Longitudinal report with the method stated, because a number without a method is not a…
|
+87 | 97 | 18k | 9mo |
|
A 40-week log with the measurement method stated — does this still hold?
A 40-week log with the measurement method stated — does this still hold? I have a specific reason for asking rather than idle curiosity, and the context is below. Longitudinal report with the method stated,…
|
+1 | 5 | 14k | 2mo |
Related topics — sharing the tags effect size, data table, long read
| Topic | Participants | Replies | Views | Activity |
|---|---|---|---|---|
|
[2026 update] Correlation in a self-tracked dataset: what it can support
Posting this under the heading it deserves: Correlation in a self-tracked dataset: what it can support Everything below is what sits behind that. I have seen SURMOUNT-4 ( JAMA , 2024) cited in support of a…
|
2 | 31k | 6h | |
|
What TRIUMPH is designed to answer, and why we should not pre-empt it — does this still hold?
Asking directly, because I could not find a straight answer: What TRIUMPH is designed to answer, and why we should not pre-empt it — does this still hold? Session topic: STEP 2 ( Lancet , 2021). Please read…
|
+43 | 47 | 5.5k | just now |
|
Selection into a registry and what it does to the estimate — a second dataset
Posting this under the heading it deserves: Selection into a registry and what it does to the estimate — a second dataset Everything below is what sits behind that. Session topic: SURMOUNT-4 ( JAMA , 2024).…
|
+28 | 32 | 1.3k | 1d |
|
Blinding yourself: practical methods and their limits — the long version
Blinding yourself: practical methods and their limits — the long version Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. I have seen SURMOUNT-OSA ( N Engl J Med , 2024)…
|
+7 | 11 | 1.8k | 22h |
|
Coming back to: Prediction intervals and why they are more honest than confidence intervals
Prediction intervals and why they are more honest than confidence intervals Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. Comparing SURMOUNT-OSA ( N Engl J Med , 2024)…
|
2 | 65 | 22mo |