Contributing data without breaching anyone's privacy posts 31–60
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.
Combining data from different sources: datasets from this site are not directly comparable to published trials because the populations are different. They are worth reading separately, not merged together.
I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.
The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.
On post #30 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Using data in discussions: datasets are useful as reference points when someone claims something unusual. "I have not seen that reported in the data" is different from "that is impossible", but data gives you something to say.
This follows post #32 rather than contradicting it.
Community-collected datasets: some members have compiled datasets from their own experience and shared them. They are self-reported, unblinded, and therefore limited as evidence. But they show real patterns that people experience.
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Using data in discussions: datasets are useful as reference points when someone claims something unusual. "I have not seen that reported in the data" is different from "that is impossible", but data gives you something to say.
Coming back to post #38, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.
How to contribute: if you have longitudinal data you want to add, the format is simple: date, measurement, context. Contact the maintainer of the specific dataset.
Reproducibility: if sharing data, include enough context (compound, dose, timeframe, method) that someone reading it understands what it represents.
Privacy: if contributing data, only share data you are comfortable making permanent and public. Once posted, data is persistent.
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Worth separating two things that post #39 runs together.
Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.
The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.
post #43 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.
Collection methods: ask how the data were collected. Longitudinal tracking over months is stronger than retrospective recall. Prospective measurement (done while experiencing something) is stronger than memory afterward.
Limitations of datasets: all community-collected data has limitations. The population is self-selected (people in this community are not representative of all people using these compounds). Reporting bias is real (remarkable outcomes get reported; mundane outcomes do not).
On post #43 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Combining data from different sources: datasets from this site are not directly comparable to published trials because the populations are different. They are worth reading separately, not merged together.
I read post #47 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.
The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.
This follows post #47 rather than contradicting it.
Temporal bias: older data in a dataset might reflect conditions (supplier, formulation, context) that have changed. Newer data is more current.
Temporal bias: older data in a dataset might reflect conditions (supplier, formulation, context) that have changed. Newer data is more current.
Combining data from different sources: datasets from this site are not directly comparable to published trials because the populations are different. They are worth reading separately, not merged together.
post #54 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.
Collection methods: ask how the data were collected. Longitudinal tracking over months is stronger than retrospective recall. Prospective measurement (done while experiencing something) is stronger than memory afterward.
Worth separating two things that post #52 runs together.
Limitations of datasets: all community-collected data has limitations. The population is self-selected (people in this community are not representative of all people using these compounds). Reporting bias is real (remarkable outcomes get reported; mundane outcomes do not).
Using data in discussions: datasets are useful as reference points when someone claims something unusual. "I have not seen that reported in the data" is different from "that is impossible", but data gives you something to say.
Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.
The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.
Privacy: if contributing data, only share data you are comfortable making permanent and public. Once posted, data is persistent.