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EMA product information as a primary source — does this still hold? posts 61–90

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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a.ilungaTL2 Moderator16 Nov 2024#61
m.broberg, post #33: Picking up post #30: that is the part I would want checked first. France: ANSM implements EU framework. Reimbursement has been narrower for weight management. Prescribing restrictions were applied during shortages, directing available product toward diabetes indications. Go to post

Pharmacy practice: pharmacies in different EU countries differ in conservatism about irregular prescriptions. Some will decline a prescription they consider irregular; others will not. Local pharmacy culture matters.

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coldchain_liuTL3Regular16 Nov 2024#62

France: ANSM implements EU framework. Reimbursement has been narrower for weight management. Prescribing restrictions were applied during shortages, directing available product toward diabetes indications.

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m.nascimentoTL2 Moderator16 Nov 2024#63

On post #59 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Netherlands: CBG-MEB implements framework. GPs are first point of contact. Insurance coverage for weight management is conditional on structured lifestyle programme participation.

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a.finnegan_rdTL2Dietitian16 Nov 2024 · edited#64

post #63 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Spain: AEMPS is the regulator. Public reimbursement for weight management has been limited with regional variation in specialist pathways. Private prescription is common.

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f.danquahTL2 Moderator16 Nov 2024#65
BGiordano, post #42: Pharmacy practice: pharmacies in different EU countries differ in conservatism about irregular prescriptions. Some will decline a prescription they consider irregular; others will not. Local pharmacy culture matters. Go to post

Germany: BfArM implements EU framework. Statutory insurance (the majority) excludes "lifestyle medicines" including weight management. Private prescription is common. Private insurance sometimes covers it.

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s.girardTL2 Moderator16 Nov 2024#67

Worth separating two things that post #63 runs together.

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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logbook_erinTL3Regular16 Nov 2024#68

Netherlands: CBG-MEB implements framework. GPs are first point of contact. Insurance coverage for weight management is conditional on structured lifestyle programme participation.

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v.bergstromTL2 Moderator16 Nov 2024#69

Coming back to post #67, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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VPoulsenTL3Regular16 Nov 2024#70
weekly_pin, post #8: I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological. The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient. Go to post

Picking up post #67: that is the part I would want checked first.

Italy: AIFA controls reimbursement through a note system. Weight-management indications have not attracted public reimbursement. Regional health authorities add further variation.

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e.silvaTL2 Moderator16 Nov 2024#71
s.kuusela, post #25: Spain: AEMPS is the regulator. Public reimbursement for weight management has been limited with regional variation in specialist pathways. Private prescription is common. Go to post

Spain: AEMPS is the regulator. Public reimbursement for weight management has been limited with regional variation in specialist pathways. Private prescription is common.

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an.adeyemiTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#72

EMA is the regulator with national implementation. Licensed incretin analogues are prescription-only across the EU, with some variation in specific approvals by member state.

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e.lokkenTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#73

This follows post #70 rather than contradicting it.

Pharmacy practice: pharmacies in different EU countries differ in conservatism about irregular prescriptions. Some will decline a prescription they consider irregular; others will not. Local pharmacy culture matters.

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c.rasmussenTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#74

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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j.sorensenTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#75

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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j.castellanosTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#76

On post #72 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Private prescription with self-payment is legal across the EU and is the common route where public reimbursement is not available.

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c.ramosTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#77

Reimbursement varies substantially by member state. Some (Germany, France, Netherlands) restrict weight-management coverage. Others are more permissive. That variation is the single most determinative factor in access for most EU residents.

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a.wikstromTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#79

post #78 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Netherlands: CBG-MEB implements framework. GPs are first point of contact. Insurance coverage for weight management is conditional on structured lifestyle programme participation.

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chromatogramTL4Analytical chemist17 Nov 2024#80

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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coldchain_liuTL3Regular17 Nov 2024#81
two_year_line, post #24: Pharmacy practice: pharmacies in different EU countries differ in conservatism about irregular prescriptions. Some will decline a prescription they consider irregular; others will not. Local pharmacy culture matters. Go to post

Spain: AEMPS is the regulator. Public reimbursement for weight management has been limited with regional variation in specialist pathways. Private prescription is common.

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m.nascimentoTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#82

post #81 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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logbook_erinTL3Regular17 Nov 2024#83

I read post #81 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Germany: BfArM implements EU framework. Statutory insurance (the majority) excludes "lifestyle medicines" including weight management. Private prescription is common. Private insurance sometimes covers it.

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p.ostergaardTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#84
a.lindholm, post #43: Private prescription with self-payment is legal across the EU and is the common route where public reimbursement is not available. Go to post

France: ANSM implements EU framework. Reimbursement has been narrower for weight management. Prescribing restrictions were applied during shortages, directing available product toward diabetes indications.

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v.szaboTL3Analytical chemist17 Nov 2024#85

On post #81 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Private prescription with self-payment is legal across the EU and is the common route where public reimbursement is not available.

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o.vukovicTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#86

post #85 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Reimbursement varies substantially by member state. Some (Germany, France, Netherlands) restrict weight-management coverage. Others are more permissive. That variation is the single most determinative factor in access for most EU residents.

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a.finnegan_rdTL2Dietitian17 Nov 2024#87

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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v.kirchnerTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#88
lyophil_margin, post #54: Germany: BfArM implements EU framework. Statutory insurance (the majority) excludes "lifestyle medicines" including weight management. Private prescription is common. Private insurance sometimes covers it. Go to post

Italy: AIFA controls reimbursement through a note system. Weight-management indications have not attracted public reimbursement. Regional health authorities add further variation.

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KLindqvistTL4 Moderator17 Nov 2024#89
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EMA is the regulator with national implementation. Licensed incretin analogues are prescription-only across the EU, with some variation in specific approvals by member state.

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i.bakkenTL2 Moderator17 Nov 2024#90

Pharmacy practice: pharmacies in different EU countries differ in conservatism about irregular prescriptions. Some will decline a prescription they consider irregular; others will not. Local pharmacy culture matters.

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