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Evidence · Meta-analyses · continued

Random versus fixed effects: choosing rather than defaulting — a second dataset posts 91–107

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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t.batistaTL2 Moderator11 Feb 2025#91
c.silva, post #59: Worth separating two things that post #55 runs together. Two things before anyone answers the substance. First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound. Go to post

On post #87 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Subgroup analysis: sometimes a meta-analysis reports separate pooled estimates for different subgroups (e.g., by baseline body mass index or by trial duration). Be cautious — many subgroup analyses are exploratory and less reliable than the main analysis.

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IsaksenTL3Regular11 Feb 2025#92

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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m.ndiayeTL2 Moderator11 Feb 2025#93

Inclusion and exclusion criteria: a meta-analysis is only as good as its inclusion criteria. If the criteria are too broad, apples and oranges get pooled. If they are too narrow, the meta-analysis answers a overly specific question.

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bench_peakTL3Regular11 Feb 2025#94

Study quality and weighting: some meta-analyses weight all studies equally; others weight by study size or study quality. The choice affects the result and should be stated and justified.

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h.castellanosTL2 Moderator11 Feb 2025#95
e.varga, post #52: Study quality and weighting: some meta-analyses weight all studies equally; others weight by study size or study quality. The choice affects the result and should be stated and justified. Go to post

Worth separating two things that post #91 runs together.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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bias_varianceTL4Biostatistician11 Feb 2025 · edited#96

post #95 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Study quality and weighting: some meta-analyses weight all studies equally; others weight by study size or study quality. The choice affects the result and should be stated and justified.

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t.ibarraTL2 Moderator12 Feb 2025#97

Publication bias: what did not get published? Small studies with negative results are less likely to be published than large studies with positive results. A forest plot with only large studies on the positive end is a red flag for unpublished small negative studies.

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KStephanopoulosTL3Regular12 Feb 2025#98

Why forest plots are more informative than pooled numbers: they show the variation across studies, which tells you whether the effect is consistent or heterogeneous. A narrow confidence interval around a meaningless centre is less useful than a wider interval that shows real differences.

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i.norgaardTL2 Moderator12 Feb 2025 · edited#99

When a meta-analysis is unhelpful: if the included studies are heterogeneous in population, intervention, or outcome, pooling them produces a number that represents nothing in particular. Reading the individual studies is more useful than reading the pooled estimate.

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compounding_ruthTL4Pharmacist12 Feb 2025#100

post #99 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Pooled estimates and heterogeneity: when trials differ in population, duration, or comparator, a pooled estimate answers a question that no individual trial asked. High heterogeneity means effects genuinely differ across studies. The pooled number is an average of things that should not have been averaged.

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a.silvaTL2 Moderator12 Feb 2025#101
ca.vermeulen, post #19: On post #15 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Sensitivity analysis: the authors re-run the meta-analysis excluding studies one at a time, or by quality, to see whether the pooled estimate changes. Robust results stay similar even when individual studies are excluded. Go to post

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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PSkarbekTL3Regular12 Feb 2025#102
t.ibarra, post #97: Publication bias: what did not get published? Small studies with negative results are less likely to be published than large studies with positive results. A forest plot with only large studies on the positive end is a red flag for unpublished small negative studies. Go to post

Picking up post #99: that is the part I would want checked first.

Fixed-effects versus random-effects models: fixed-effects assumes all studies are estimating the same thing and variation is sampling error. Random-effects assumes studies are estimating effects from different distributions and allows between-study variance. Choice matters if heterogeneity is high.

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k.haddadTL2 Moderator12 Feb 2025#103

On post #99 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Funnel plots: a plot of study effect size versus sample size that helps detect publication bias. If small studies are missing on the negative side, the funnel is asymmetrical.

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buffer_marginTL3Regular13 Feb 2025#104

Inclusion and exclusion criteria: a meta-analysis is only as good as its inclusion criteria. If the criteria are too broad, apples and oranges get pooled. If they are too narrow, the meta-analysis answers a overly specific question.

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a.hartmannTL2 Moderator13 Feb 2025#105
Okafor, post #31: Coming back to post #29, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Why forest plots are more informative than pooled numbers: they show the variation across studies, which tells you whether the effect is consistent or heterogeneous. A narrow confidence interval around a meaningless centre is less useful than a wider… Go to post

Sensitivity analysis: the authors re-run the meta-analysis excluding studies one at a time, or by quality, to see whether the pooled estimate changes. Robust results stay similar even when individual studies are excluded.

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excursion_checkTL3Regular13 Feb 2025#106

Number needed to treat from a meta-analysis: can be computed from the pooled estimate if the baseline risk is specified. More interpretable than pooled relative effects.

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s.vanheckeTL2 Moderator13 Feb 2025#107

Worth separating two things that post #103 runs together.

Subgroup analysis: sometimes a meta-analysis reports separate pooled estimates for different subgroups (e.g., by baseline body mass index or by trial duration). Be cautious — many subgroup analyses are exploratory and less reliable than the main analysis.

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