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Ultrasound and skinfolds: operator dependence in practice posts 61–77

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c.haddadTL2 Moderator16 Jul 2026#61

I read post #59 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Changes during titration: measuring body composition during active titration is less useful than measuring after dose is stable. Titration causes fluid shifts that confound body composition.

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l.ibarraTL2Regular17 Jul 2026#62
customs_ledger, post #49: Worth separating two things that post #45 runs together. Comparison to published data: the trials reported mean fat and lean mass changes. Individual results vary around that mean. Being above or below average is not a sign of something wrong. Go to post

Precision versus accuracy: the precision you need depends on what question you are answering. "Am I losing fat?" requires less precision than "Is my lean mass preservation within the expected range?"

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a.kirchnerTL2 Moderator18 Jul 2026#63
e.mensa, post #36: On post #32 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Resting metabolic rate: body composition affects metabolic rate. As fat mass decreases and lean mass is maintained, metabolic rate is usually maintained better than with simple weight loss alone. Go to post

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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appeals_deskTL3Regular18 Jul 2026#64

post #63 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Changes during titration: measuring body composition during active titration is less useful than measuring after dose is stable. Titration causes fluid shifts that confound body composition.

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y.rahimiTL2 Moderator19 Jul 2026#65

Coming back to post #63, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

DXA (dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry): the standard for body composition in research. Precision is roughly ±1 kg for lean mass. Two scans six months apart on the same machine with the same technician give you useful information. Two scans six weeks apart on different machines tell you about the machines.

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preregisteredTL3Research methods19 Jul 2026#66
n.nyberg, post #45: Maintenance phase: tracking body composition during maintenance (weight stable) is different from tracking during active loss. Changes are smaller and precision becomes more important. Go to post

Picking up post #63: that is the part I would want checked first.

Visceral fat: DXA does not distinguish visceral (organ-associated) fat from subcutaneous fat. That distinction might matter but requires different imaging to measure.

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r.petrovTL2 Moderator20 Jul 2026#67

Ultrasound: thickness of subcutaneous fat at specific sites. Less standardised than DXA and operator-dependent. Useful as a supplementary measure but not as a primary method.

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retention_indexTL2Analytical chemist21 Jul 2026#68

Bioelectric impedance analysis: less precise than DXA and strongly affected by hydration state. Not reliable for detecting month-to-month changes. Useful for trend over years if done consistently.

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m.adeyemiTL2 Moderator21 Jul 2026#69

Maintenance phase: tracking body composition during maintenance (weight stable) is different from tracking during active loss. Changes are smaller and precision becomes more important.

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chromatogramTL4Analytical chemist22 Jul 2026#70

This follows post #67 rather than contradicting it.

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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t.pereiraTL2 Moderator23 Jul 2026#71

Lean mass loss during rapid weight reduction: depends on protein intake, resistance training volume, and total energy deficit. Adequate protein and maintaining training intensity both help preserve lean mass.

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f.villalobosTL2 Moderator23 Jul 2026#72

On post #68 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Comparison to published data: the trials reported mean fat and lean mass changes. Individual results vary around that mean. Being above or below average is not a sign of something wrong.

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v.baptistaTL2 Moderator24 Jul 2026 · edited#73
PharmNotes_Whitfield, post #43: I read post #41 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. DXA (dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry): the standard for body composition in research. Precision is roughly ±1 kg for lean mass. Two scans six months apart on the same machine with the same technician give you useful information. Two scans six weeks apart on… Go to post

Resting metabolic rate: body composition affects metabolic rate. As fat mass decreases and lean mass is maintained, metabolic rate is usually maintained better than with simple weight loss alone.

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bench_notesTL4 Moderator24 Jul 2026#74
g.ibarra, post #60: Ultrasound: thickness of subcutaneous fat at specific sites. Less standardised than DXA and operator-dependent. Useful as a supplementary measure but not as a primary method. Go to post

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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r.friskTL2 Moderator25 Jul 2026#75

Comparison to published data: the trials reported mean fat and lean mass changes. Individual results vary around that mean. Being above or below average is not a sign of something wrong.

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h.ferrariTL2 Moderator26 Jul 2026#76

Resting metabolic rate: body composition affects metabolic rate. As fat mass decreases and lean mass is maintained, metabolic rate is usually maintained better than with simple weight loss alone.

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e.lehtinenTL2 Moderator26 Jul 2026#77
HRouhani, post #37: Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up. Go to post

This follows post #74 rather than contradicting it.

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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