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Talking to a therapist about this specifically — does this still hold?

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post #7 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological. The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be…

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p.ostergaardTL2 Moderator27 Dec 2024#1

The question in the title: Talking to a therapist about this specifically — does this still hold? I will give what I have already checked below so nobody repeats it.

Asking about a population rather than about a person.

The published trials in this class mostly enrolled a fairly specific group, and the questions here frequently come from people well outside it. I would like to understand what the honest position is when someone falls outside the studied population: not "it is fine" and not "there is no data", but what the reasoning actually looks like.

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a.adebayoTL2 Moderator2 Jan 2025#2

Body image and weight loss: large weight loss changes a person's relationship with their body in ways that can be psychologically complex. Some of that is positive; some might involve adjustment or processing.

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b.fonsecaTL2 Moderator6 Jan 2025#3
p.ostergaard, post #1: The question in the title: Talking to a therapist about this specifically — does this still hold? I will give what I have already checked below so nobody repeats it. Asking about a population rather than about a person. The published trials in this class mostly enrolled a fairly specific group, and the questions here frequently come… Go to post

Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive.

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p.marchettiTL2 Moderator9 Jan 2025#4
p.ostergaard, post #1: The question in the title: Talking to a therapist about this specifically — does this still hold? I will give what I have already checked below so nobody repeats it. Asking about a population rather than about a person. The published trials in this class mostly enrolled a fairly specific group, and the questions here frequently come… Go to post

Disordered eating history: a history of anorexia, bulimia, or other eating disorders changes the risk-benefit calculation. Appetite suppression might trigger relapse. Specialist input is prudent.

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d.bakkerTL2 Moderator13 Jan 2025#5

Substance use: if someone has a history of substance use, appetite suppression and weight loss can shift thinking about body and substance use. This is a risk factor worth acknowledging.

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c.silvaTL2 Moderator16 Jan 2025#6

Sleep and mental health: these compounds can affect sleep for some people. Sleep deprivation worsens mood and anxiety. Addressing sleep separately from mood matters.

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r.girardTL2 Moderator19 Jan 2025#7
b.fonseca, post #3: Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post

Motivation and expectation: starting with clear motivation and realistic expectations about what will happen and when helps with psychological adjustment.

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z.iyerTL2 Moderator Solution22 Jan 2025#8

post #7 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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m.stephanopoulosTL3Regular25 Jan 2025#9

Support and community: some people process weight change through community (online or in-person). Others prefer privacy. Knowing what you need and seeking it proactively helps.

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j.silvaTL2 Moderator27 Jan 2025#10

Identity and self-image: for some people, weight and body size are central to identity. Large change to body size can affect identity. This is not pathological; it is human.

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c.inglethorpeTL3Regular30 Jan 2025#11
b.fonseca, post #3: Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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f.chowdhuryTL2 Moderator2 Feb 2025#12

Mood and anxiety: mood changes and anxiety are reported by some people. Baseline mental health status matters for risk. Someone with a history of depression should plan closer monitoring.

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CSagredoTL3Regular4 Feb 2025#13

When to involve a professional: if mood changes are persistent, deepen over weeks, or interfere with function, involving a mental health professional is appropriate. These are not trivialities to ignore.

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r.molnarTL27 Feb 2025#14
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m.eriksenTL2 Moderator9 Feb 2025#15
a.adebayo, post #2: Body image and weight loss: large weight loss changes a person's relationship with their body in ways that can be psychologically complex. Some of that is positive; some might involve adjustment or processing. Go to post

Picking up post #12: that is the part I would want checked first.

Body image and weight loss: large weight loss changes a person's relationship with their body in ways that can be psychologically complex. Some of that is positive; some might involve adjustment or processing.

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m.ekstromTL2 Moderator12 Feb 2025#16

Social and relationship impacts: weight change affects how others perceive and interact with a person. Those impacts are real and can be psychologically significant.

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ThibodeauTL3Regular14 Feb 2025#17

Identity and self-image: for some people, weight and body size are central to identity. Large change to body size can affect identity. This is not pathological; it is human.

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h.amankwahTL2 Moderator17 Feb 2025 · edited#18
m.ekstrom, post #16: Social and relationship impacts: weight change affects how others perceive and interact with a person. Those impacts are real and can be psychologically significant. Go to post

Motivation and expectation: starting with clear motivation and realistic expectations about what will happen and when helps with psychological adjustment.

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IMainwaringTL3Regular19 Feb 2025#19

Sleep and mental health: these compounds can affect sleep for some people. Sleep deprivation worsens mood and anxiety. Addressing sleep separately from mood matters.

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l.lundgrenTL2 Moderator21 Feb 2025#20

I read post #18 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Substance use: if someone has a history of substance use, appetite suppression and weight loss can shift thinking about body and substance use. This is a risk factor worth acknowledging.

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y.eriksenTL2 Moderator26 Feb 2025#22
b.fonseca, post #3: Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post

This follows post #19 rather than contradicting it.

Disordered eating history: a history of anorexia, bulimia, or other eating disorders changes the risk-benefit calculation. Appetite suppression might trigger relapse. Specialist input is prudent.

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sterile_tableTL3Regular28 Feb 2025#23

Mood and anxiety: mood changes and anxiety are reported by some people. Baseline mental health status matters for risk. Someone with a history of depression should plan closer monitoring.

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m.ramosTL2 Moderator2 Mar 2025 · edited#24

Thank you for the correction. I have edited my earlier post with a note rather than silently, so the thread still makes sense to read. The error was mine and it was the kind that comes from remembering a figure instead of looking it up.

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curious_readerTL1Member5 Mar 2025#25
c.silva, post #6: Sleep and mental health: these compounds can affect sleep for some people. Sleep deprivation worsens mood and anxiety. Addressing sleep separately from mood matters. Go to post

Substance use: if someone has a history of substance use, appetite suppression and weight loss can shift thinking about body and substance use. This is a risk factor worth acknowledging.

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j.ivaturiTL2 Moderator7 Mar 2025#26

Picking up post #23: that is the part I would want checked first.

Sleep and mental health: these compounds can affect sleep for some people. Sleep deprivation worsens mood and anxiety. Addressing sleep separately from mood matters.

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revision_historyTL3Wiki editor9 Mar 2025#27

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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a.adeyemiTL2 Moderator11 Mar 2025#28

Support and community: some people process weight change through community (online or in-person). Others prefer privacy. Knowing what you need and seeking it proactively helps.

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j.habermannTL3Regular13 Mar 2025 · edited#29

Social and relationship impacts: weight change affects how others perceive and interact with a person. Those impacts are real and can be psychologically significant.

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k.okaforTL2 Moderator15 Mar 2025#30
revision_history, post #27: Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing. The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough. Go to post

I disagree with the reply above, and I think the disagreement is substantive rather than terminological.

The distinction being drawn does not survive when you look at the published data for this specific question. I would be glad to be shown wrong on this, because the version I am arguing against is more convenient.

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