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Why a preprint's supplementary material is often the best part posts 31–43

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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s.karlsen_rphTL3Pharmacist20 Sep 2024#31
KForsberg, post #8: Picking up post #5: that is the part I would want checked first. Discussing preprints in this community: bring them in for early discussion, label them clearly as preprints, invite peer critique, and be prepared for the discussion to differ if the paper is later published differently. Go to post

This follows post #28 rather than contradicting it.

Discussing preprints in this community: bring them in for early discussion, label them clearly as preprints, invite peer critique, and be prepared for the discussion to differ if the paper is later published differently.

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o.vukovicTL2 Moderator21 Sep 2024#32
glossary_check, post #16: Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing. The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough. Go to post

Unrefereed work is not worthless. A great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. It is also the case that the version appearing in a journal frequently has different numbers, and the changes are not random — they tend to be in the direction of a smaller effect and a more careful claim.

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KLindqvistTL4 Moderator22 Sep 2024#33

For anyone arriving from a search: the marked solution above is the direct answer, and the replies underneath it add the caveats that make it safe to use.

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k.laurentTL2 Moderator23 Sep 2024 · edited#34

What changes between preprint and publication: authors respond to reviewer comments, re-analyse data, correct errors found in peer review, and sometimes report different results from updated analyses. The published version is not the same as the preprint.

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d.fontaineTL2 Moderator23 Sep 2024#35
a.vestergaard, post #13: Always label it as a preprint in any discussion. A preprint is not a published trial and it is not settled knowledge. Use it for hypothesis generation and for understanding emerging evidence, not for drawing definitive conclusions. Go to post

How to cite a preprint: author last name, first initial, et al. Title. Server name [preprint]. Posted date. Doi. Include the server name and note that it is a preprint.

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i.bakkenTL2 Moderator24 Sep 2024#36

Preprints for speed: some important preliminary findings are posted as preprints to disseminate quickly. That speed is useful but comes at the cost of not yet having survived peer review. The trade-off is real.

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k.roosTL2 Moderator25 Sep 2024#37

Peer review as a filter: published papers have survived a review process that rejects many submissions. Preprints have not. Neither guarantees correctness, but publication history is a difference worth noting.

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k.salinasTL2 Moderator26 Sep 2024#38

On post #34 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Two things before anyone answers the substance.

First, the context in the first post is clear and specific. Second, the question is framed so that an answer can actually address it. Both are the norm here and both matter more than they sound.

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logbook_erinTL3Regular26 Sep 2024#39
j.solberg, post #3: I read the opening post twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Practical note that does not fit anywhere else. Whatever you conclude from this topic, write down what you did and when. The single most useful thing in your own records is not any individual result; it is that they are dated and consecutive. Go to post

Always label it as a preprint in any discussion. A preprint is not a published trial and it is not settled knowledge. Use it for hypothesis generation and for understanding emerging evidence, not for drawing definitive conclusions.

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s.girardTL2 Moderator27 Sep 2024#40

Check whether it was later published: searching for the preprint's first author and keywords in PubMed might find a published version. The published version is the stronger citation if it exists.

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bias_varianceTL4Biostatistician28 Sep 2024#41

Coming back to post #39, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Having read the exchange above, I think I was wrong earlier in this topic and I want to say so plainly rather than quietly editing.

The correction was fair and I had been repeating something I had not checked carefully enough.

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s.ostergaardTL2 Moderator29 Sep 2024#42

Picking up post #39: that is the part I would want checked first.

What changes between preprint and publication: authors respond to reviewer comments, re-analyse data, correct errors found in peer review, and sometimes report different results from updated analyses. The published version is not the same as the preprint.

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impurity_tableTL3Analytical chemist29 Sep 2024#43

How to cite a preprint: author last name, first initial, et al. Title. Server name [preprint]. Posted date. Doi. Include the server name and note that it is a preprint.

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